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Unread 01-02-2009, 07:22 PM
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Do affiliates have no legal framework to work from in the way they behave, and how others should behave towards them?

Do big affiliates and/or groups such as this not retain a lawyer?

If so: are this firm arguably in order legally?

Look: If I write a FU clause into my blog's terms, sign an up front media deal with Grand Prive and just change my mind and invoke the FU clause, they'd pursue me right?

Or is this aff thing really the wild wild west?
IMO it's like the wild wild west and everyone is free to cheat at will.

I'm not sure how legal it is, but I do an IO (Insertion Order) that give the terms of the deal and I treat it as a contract that is legally binding and would always honor it, but I"m sure there some that take the money and not honor banner placement.
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Unread 01-02-2009, 08:39 PM
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There is no practical legal recourse for affiliate/affiliate program disputes, IMO.
I've said for years that it is ridiculous to even suggest things like," I'll sue you", or "I'll get my attorney involved", ETC..

It cracks me up everytime I see someone say something like that.

The simple fact is that the only thing we have is TRUST!

We have to trust that they won't break their agreements, won't devise ways to minimize our earnings, and will do as they say they will do.

Once any program is allowed to breach that sacred trust, more will follow, IMO.

Therefore, it's my feeling that the only resolution to this is that Grand Prive honor the trust that the affiliates gave them.

Anything less than that is unacceptable, IMO.
If they continue to violate that trust, then all available tools and methods should be used to try to put them out of business totally.

What's fair is fair at that stage.
If ANY program is going to screw the affiliates, breach agreements, and the affiliate trust,...... then the affiliates should go all the way in trying to screw them back.
At least make the price that they pay for violating the "TRUST" greater than the money they SAVE by screwing the affiliate community.

It's very unfortunate that they put the entire affiliate community in this position.
Hopefully CAP will get them to see the error of their ways, and get them to relent before it's too late!
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Unread 05-18-2009, 01:46 PM
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There is no practical legal recourse for affiliate/affiliate program disputes, IMO.

I've said for years that it is ridiculous to even suggest things like," I'll sue you", or "I'll get my attorney involved", ETC..

It cracks me up everytime I see someone say something like that.

The simple fact is that the only thing we have is TRUST!
Correct.

That said, were not Fabiano and Co. talking about legal action? Total waste of time, but after commenting again in the eCOGRA thread, I wondered if that all died an inevitable death in the end.

I know Fabby has been sidetracked with other issues anyway, LOL.
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Hi folks,

I posted this at just about everywhere else I can think and appreciate to post it here.

I'm not thru with grand prive by a long shot.

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Hi all,



as many know we are seeing what looks to be a possible trend to want to follow grand prive in how they treated affiliates.



Some are saying they got away with it. I beg to differ and ask your help.



We MUST make a clear, combined effort to drive home the stake in the heart to a program that has already sought to do same to us.



We didn't start this fight but we MUST win it to persevere. Other programs are considering doing the same because we are not biting hard enough. Vegas Affiliates is right now considering their new "beta" program which is nothing but a whitewash on scewing us.



We can stop this trend without further injury if we attack with much bigger teeth than has been used to date.



Please join me in a renewed campaign against what is arguably the biggest threat to affiliates in our industry ... in the history of our existence.



http://www.gamblingaffiliateplace.co...=2650#post2650



more there.



I put it in the private area to keep people comfortable in talking freely.



* I apologize to this forum for taking you away from this location but I have to have one spot to organize this so ...



and if its a problem just delete the thread. Please note the same thread will be posted at other like-minded forums.
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Unread 05-30-2009, 06:28 PM
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Affiliates have done a poor job with their blacklist efforts according to my research.



These casinos do not have enough blacklist warnings for their keyword, they should have several blacklist warnings come up in descriptions whenever that keyword is searched and some of them have none, others may have one or two on the page. We should have the whole page of descriptions below theirs ... exclaiming blacklist to get searchers attention.



grand bay casino (2 blacklist descriptions)
jupiter club

Lake Palace casino

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Fortune Junction casino (2 blacklist descriptions at bottom of page)
Jackpot Wheel casino (1 blacklist description, 3 rank - casino city description needs updating)

Villa Fortuna casino (2 blacklist descrpitions)
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Getting up to speed..

eCogra has taken over the investigation. From Dec 17th..

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PROGRESS REPORT : GRAND PRIVÉ AFFILIATES PROGRAM INVESTIGATION


17 December 2009 - The audit team continues to receive and assess claims in connection with the the above and the investigation is on track.


The eCOGRA team has noted affiliate concerns regarding the lack of communications reach of affiliate representative bodies and webmasters, and Grand Privé management has consequently decided the following:

That the communications exercise be expanded by emailing all affiliates who had active players on the Program's records during the 3 months prior to 1 December 2008 when the Program closed;


That the deadline for submission of claims be extended to 31st December 2009.
Our mandate has therefore been amended accordingly, and the expanded communications exercise has commenced. Our investigation will also include confirming the accuracy and completeness of the database list of emails used in the expanded communications exercise.
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Great video.....

Thanks J Todd

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Unread 01-25-2010, 06:00 PM
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I got this today from eCogra:

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Please be advised that our investigation is progressing well, but as I'm
sure you can appreciate this process requires a detailed and thorough
professional audit and careful assessment of large volumes of data going
back almost 18 months at GP's operations.



In addition to this, we are taking steps to substantiate the actions
taken when the program was terminated and the reasons therefore.



It is therefore unlikely that we will have completed our investigation,
arrived at fair settlement amounts, and compiled our public report
before mid-February, but we will keep you informed as the investigation
moves towards a conclusion.
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